garmin etrex vista hcx-Garmin eTrex Vista HCx Color High-Sensitivity Mapping Handheld GPS Product And Product Reviews
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garmin etrex vista hcx-Garmin eTrex Vista HCx Color High-Sensitivity Mapping Handheld GPS Product And Product Reviews
garmin etrex vista hcx-Garmin eTrex Vista HCx Color High-Sensitivity Mapping Handheld GPS Product Features
garmin etrex vista hcx-Garmin eTrex Vista HCx Color High-Sensitivity Mapping Handheld GPS Technical Details
Technical Details:
- High-sensitivity, WAAS-enabled GPS receiver provides peak performance in any environment
- Lightweight, compact and waterproof
- Features a 1.7-inch X 1.3-inch screen with 256-level color TFT
- Built-in basemap with automatic routing capability
- USB connection for high-speed map downloads
garmin etrex vista hcx-Garmin eTrex Vista HCx Color High-Sensitivity Mapping Handheld GPS Product Description
Price:$223.24
garmin etrex vista hcx-Garmin eTrex Vista HCx Color High-Sensitivity Mapping Handheld GPS Product Reviews
Every review I read touted the extra sensitive antenna and how it picked up and locked onto satellites inside of homes or buildings. Well I can honestly tell you that it does all this and does it quick. How this happens it Garmin magic. I was always told you had to have line of sight to pick up satellites, but not in the case of the Vista HCx, it can get them just about anywhere short of being in a bunker.
The menu is intuitive and easy to navigate, so much more that my old Garmin 12 map. The long story short, this little GPS is the one for everyone else to beat. If you are seriously considering a GPS purchase for hiking or navigating the back country, do not look elsewhere, this is the one to get!
The base maps in the Vista HCx are of course upgradeable through additional accessories purchases from Garmin (at substantial cost), but worth the money. How Garmin managed to pack so much into so little a package is a mystery to me. Do yourself a favor, stop reading the review and just buy one, you will not be disappointed.
BTW, I purchased mine through Amazon.com and took advantage of the free shipping. It arrived four days ahead of when it was scheduled to arrive which was a nice surprise. Amazon has a very good price and I have always been happy with my purchases through them. And no I am not getting paid to say these nice things about Amazon, I am just a very satisfied customer.
Dan…
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Pros:
* Really high sensitivity. Now it always works inside the car, and it always works when hiking in the forest. You can just drop it into your pocket or backpack.
* Routing capability. Very useful if you have a good map, even if it doesn’t give voice commands.
* Color screen rather than B/W makes it much more readable even if screen area is slightly smaller
* When saving Waypoints, now the date and time info is automatically included.
* Battery lasts at least twice
* Rapid transfer of maps and tracks through USB rather than serial!
* Compatible with the maps and logs that I already have. I transferred all the waypoints and tracks saved in my old Vista to this new model, through Mapsource without problem.
* Compatible with my car, motorbike and bicycle mounts that I already have from my Etrex Vista.
* I can still use the free maps that I used with my old Vista, from: http://mapcenter.cgpsmapper.com/catalogue.php and from
http://www.malsingmaps.com/
* Automatic date setup (from the satellites?)
* When transferring to the PC, the Active Log is now transferred as a few tracks (I guess one for every time that you have powered up the device) rather than as a long list of tracks
* When saving a track, now you can decide exactly up to which point to save back.
Cons:
* Not compatible with two of my Etrex Vista accessories: Car power adaptor (now the power comes through the USB connector) and Garmin case (now the unit is a little bit wider and shorter)
* No Favorite Waypoints menu. Has been replaced by a Recent Finds Menu?
* User Interface is sometimes confusing and not easy to find the function that you are looking for.
* WAAS setting and backlight level get to off whenever you power off the unit rather than remembering the setting (firmware bug?)
* Product Manual is very bad. It tells you how to turn things on and off, not why and when you should turn something on and off.
* No Micro SD memory included so you cannot upload any map unless you buy one.
* For the next product update, could I ask Garmin to add a Voice Recorder function to be able record a voice note associated to each Waypoint?
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REVISED 6/30/08: Okay, finally! I got someone at Garmin customer service (very nice in the Mac Dept.) that could explain what-exactly needs to be done to get this puppy up-and-running: I had already downloaded the Garmin MapIntsall software (which you need to open, then select the device-in this case the HCx); there you will find all your maps (in my case the Topo Natl Parks and Topo USA for Mac). With the GPS plugged into USB port you simple select all the maps you want from one set of maps and then go to the other set and select the ones there). Works like a dream! Now if they would just make this clear somewhere (and believe me, it is not CLEAR anywhere). That being said, the experience I had today was much better. While I had to wait another 30 minutes to get customer service (who told me the serial number is located inside the battery case on the back) and then another 5 minutes to get to the Mac specialist-all my questions were answered! Both techs were very nice and helpful! Today’s experience would be 5 Star Customer service! while I have rated the device 2 stars-I would probably change to 4 stars. Why the missing star? Initial frustration that could have been alleviated if Garmin took the time to stuff some extra instructions in the box specifically for Mac user’s and made their website a little more friendly-and informative. The 24k NATL PARKS maps are beautiful on the color screens-as are the TOPO USA 2008 for Mac. The toggles are still awkward and unruly-but I’ll get used to it. So, in a nutshell; You can download multiple maps on to your Garmin Vista Hcx using MapInstall (dowload from their website) to your applications folder. Once downloaded, connect your HCx to USB and select device and have fun selecting your maps. One thing I was not real clear on until today is that “Bobcat” is strictly for viewing maps and transferring wayspoints, etc. It has nothing to do with uplading maps to your GPS. Use MapInstall to upload maps to the GPS. Today’s experience brought my faith back in Garmin customer service and technology. Thanks Garmin, for FINALLY becoming Mac compatible. I’m going to be a happy camper with this wonderful little GPS!
REVISED 7/6/08: Referring to the most recent “1 Star” Review; Yes, mine locks-up/freezes, too (nothing to do with Mac) unit freezes on the trail-at least once a day. No response from any buttons-unable to do anything until holding power button for long period-reboot. This is not cool! Will call Garmin Monday and see what’s up. Not good to hear they have a new chipset out and this may be the old one. After-all, I just purchased this. Will report back on what Garmin says. This sounds like an obvious defect.
REVISED 7/9/08: Emailed Garmin Monday-no response yet (3 days later)-so returned to Amazon for exchange. Amazon is great! No problem. Sent out a new one before I could box up the defective one-received replacement today! That’s customer service! Will let everyone know if the problem persists with replacement unit. Amazon 5 Stars! HCx?..not so sure anymore.
REVISED 7/11/08: Garmin emailed me 4 days later and explained that the new chipset is 3.0. My software version is 2.60. Used “Web-Updater” on my Mac and said I have the latest software. Everything is working beautifully with replacement Amazon sent me. No freezes or problems of any kind. Final score: Garmin HCx-4 Stars! Amazon-big 5 Stars!
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I began many years ago with a Magellan that ate 6 AA batteries every 8 hours or less, and had the satelite reception of a rock… Those were scary days!!! I’d mark my position to start, turn it off to conserve batteries, and hope like mad I could get a signal when I got to where I needed to set a mark. I made sure to have a compass too!!!
Then I upgraded to a Garmin Legend. I was amazed at how advanced it was compared to where I’d been. Then I upgraded to the Venture HC when it came out and Holly Smoke!!! The venture ROCKS!!! I threw the legend in a geocache for someone else to use.
Well folks, I passed the Venture HC to my wife when I upgraded to the Vista HCx as she’s a beginner GPSR and it will serve her very well!
I researched ALL the mapping hand-helds and most of the others, and hands down the Vista HCx is by far overall the best possible GPS buy available today. The screen is easy to see, crisp, and very clear. The Use of Garmin products are simple to learn. Battery life is outstanding with the Vista HCx! I could run 2 days with the Venture HC, now I get 3 days (I got the external power cord though, so batteries are just for outside of driving now). I see some say how well it picks up reception, well folks I drive through tunnels with entire mountains on top of me, and OH YA, Venture and Vista doesn’t even blink at the challenge! cliff’s? tree’s? child’s play!
Buying maps and microSD cards aren’t going to cause anyone to have to re-mortgage the house. Buy one here, and one there (or get a better job), and soon you’ll have all you need. Cut the chase and get the preprogrammed microSD cards and you don’t have to bother with tansfering the CD versions. Don’t overbuy for what you really need, I use mine for work and play. Most people use GPS’s for one or two activities and really don’t use them but they overbuy maps that never get used.
If your someone who is on limited income, use some enginuity and make yourself a mount for the car. I made one with two suction cups (origionally for hanging pictured), a little bailing wire, a strip on old belt leather, and some velcro I got at walmart in the material section. We’ve used it for years!!! Works perfectly, and has never dropped a GPS.
Take it from someone who knows and has been through the history of GPS navegation, and has done his research for ya, The Vista HCx is one heck of a buy!!!
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Upon receiving the hcx, it took maybe 20 minutes or so to get a feel for the thing. The manual is not much help, so with some trial and error I was able to figure out the main commands like using the navigation for cars and “Tracks” for hikes/runs/cycling. What was a little confusing is how to start a new session (i.e – for a run/hike). If you press reset in the Trip Computer menu, it will start from scratch and you can start your tracking fresh (applies for both car navigation and by foot/cycle). Then when you’re finished with a session, be sure to go to the Tracks menu and click Save. Then you can name the log file to whatever (Run/mtn biking/drive to wherever). The files store as dates and clumps all of the tracks for the day together, i.e – april 17 = 4172009.gpx. For saving map data, I use a 2gb microSD sandisk which works great in the device.
There are no maps preloaded in the hCX. You have the option of buying Topo US 2008 and City Navigator North America, this can get REALLY expensive. City Navigator in my opinion is better for general usage unless you’re on the trails most of the time, where TOPO 2008 might be better.
What the manual doesn’t tell you is how to switch back and forth between these different map sets(CityNav and Topo). The problem is that the HCX can only use ONE map set (.IMG file) at a time. There’s a free program called MAPupload(google it) that allows you to merge .IMG files (what the HCX stores your map sets as) and this is VERY helpful, as you can use the same microSD card for two or more mapsets. Problem solved! This program is necessary unless you want to buy another microSD card to split them up. It takes quite a while for the transfer (using MAPupload), but worth the wait.
What I also really like about this device is it’s ability to use the GPS data as GPX files. Most sites(like Motionbased, Mapmyfitness) can use these GPX files to map it out nicely on their site. Although Mapsource, the included software, can be a bit tempermental at times. Instead of doing the “Receive from device” command which the hcx often came up undetected, I ended up simply opening the GPX file straight from the microSD card (File->Open in Mapsource) and there it was with all the average speeds, elevation, maps, etc! From here you can save the file as an individual GPX (since the hcx automatically clumps them all together by day) which you can upload to most GPS websites.
For auto navigation I love that with CityNav, it’s basically the same as most auto only GPSes. It beeps at you and the backlight goes on before you make a turn, which is nice. It also recalculates if you go off route. Although you might consider getting the mount unless you want a neck ache from looking down at the the thing while driving.
Lastly for batteries, these things work great with Lithium AA batteries (i.e-energizer). The hCX has a setting for what type of battery you’re using under Settings->System. It’s important to have the correct battery type selected or it will show as low battery life, which confused me at first as I thought it was the battery. I bought some Rayovac NiMH Hybrid rechargeables and they’ve worked great so far.
I hope my hours of trial and error could help someone figure out some less than obvious things, or at least discover that this is an extremely handy device to use as an all around GPS tracker.
UPDATE: Well after 6 months of use of the hcx, i’m happy to say it’s still running strong and like new. A few weeks ago, the hCX actually saved us in a 4 wheel drive trip in the woods! Long story short, We went 4 wheeling 30 miles deep into dirt roads, and the GPS safely guided us back to the main highway. At times, the hCX would want us to go left at roads that didn’t exist (probably the fault of the North America map), but we followed the general direction of the road on the gps toward the highway and it guided us safely back! I also bought this cheap gps mount on ebay for less than 10 bucks from a seller named northstar_gps, and it works great!
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I am an avid hiker, nature photographer and geocacher and I like to be able to recall my trips – document sites, features and sightings etc. This unit didn’t let me down. Last weekend I took a day trip that included four different parks along a river system with high bluffs and DEEP ravines – in the car and on the ground, this unit never missed a beat, never lost signal lock.
The unit was located in many places – in hand, in the cup holder of a van, in a zipped fanny pack, clipped to a belt, and at lunch, on the table at a tavern – not a problem, never lost signal.
My last unit was a Garmin Vista Cx – this unit is MUCH better – better lock and faster draw.
As far as the “cons” I’ve read – there are few and most are related to the price of maps, the accuracy of the maps or the manual.
Concerning the price of the maps – there is no unit that comes close, at this price, (even considering the price of buying the maps) to this unit in speed and accuracy of plot. Anyone that did ANY research would know that maps are not part of the base price (not that I like or approve).
The accuracy of the maps themselves, as far as roads are concerned, is poor (topo maps) – in my area there are major freeway junctions that have not been updated for over twenty years. The topo maps, however, are not bad – if you need road info, get the City Navigator maps.
The manual I recieved with the Vista HCx is deficient, find and D/L the manual for the Vista Cx.
The Garmin Vista HCx is a great, small, versatile GPSr that will do what you need.
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The worst part to me is that what comes out of the box is an almost empty map. All you see is a blank screen. Does anyone say “Yay, that’s just what I wanted!”? One alternative is to buy Garmin’s street and topo maps for about the same price as the product. That was not particularly what I wanted to do, and maybe you do get some extra features with that, so if those are worth it to you then be my guest. If what you want to see are the side roads, small streams (even a tiny creek behind my house shows, etc. then you do have another option. Visit this site (http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/maps/view/19/) and download the 800MB map of the continental US (other world maps are available also). It downloads a “.exe” that you run, and after that when you start the mapsource program that you got on the CD with your eTrex, the ibycus map becomes one of the options on the map source dropdown list. Just click on that, zoom to a level that you see all you want to save to your device, and highlight the sections you want and save them to your device that you plugged in with the USB cable. I took everything east of the Mississippi and it came to less than a gig. That leaves me another gig on my 2G micro SD card for pictures or other maps. You can leave a donation for the map if you want to.
I haven’t explored the topo maps yet, but that is coming. I’m sorry but I just can’t see paying another $100 for just one map that I think they should have included with the device.
One other peeve I have is that it takes about nine clicks to reset the trip stuff (you have to do this through the trip computer – that will reset tracks and statistics, and you can select exactly what to reset as well). Of course this is offset by being able to change the data fields you see on almost any screen including the main map screen. Hint – when I use it for running or walking, I always keep it on the “trip computer” screen (available from the main menu), then just put it in a pocket or pack and forget about it. When it’s on that screen, the cursor button, which is the only control on the front of the unit, becomes ineffectual. So it won’t matter if something touches it. If you are on the map screen, you could wind up panning anywhere and setting up random unnamed waypoints. There may also be a way to lock the controls, which would work as well.
All in all, though, when I got it, I just said “wow!”
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The main complaints about the eTrex models appear to concern the lack of a good inbuilt map, and the extra cost of the associated Garmin-specific software needed to put this right. While these may be valid criticisms, they should not come as a surprise to anybody who has done their homework. If your main interest is in street navigation, an eTrex model is not your best option; try one of the Nuvi models, if you want to stick with Garmin. This is prinicpally an outdoor device to aid hikers: light, small, robust and tells you where you are (in terms of latitude and longitude, or local grid coordinates); it’s best used in conjunction with a good topographical map, rather then being something that replaces it. The inbuilt base-map (of interstates, main roads and rivers) is only there to provide a basic reference, not for detailed navigation. The functionality of the device can be greatly enhanced by buying additional maps (whose price can be comparable with the receiver itself!), but there are several different types depending on your needs: roads/towns, topographic or marine. You can preview them (free) on the Garmin cite before you buy them, to make sure that your choice meets your needs.
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I wanted a portable unit mostly to use while walking, hiking, or biking that would track my journey, with a color display, memory expansion capability, and alititude tracking. I did lots of online research, reading reviews and user manuals at Cnet, Amazon, and several GPS-specific sites and eventually narrowed it down to three possibilities, all Garmin: the eTrex Vista Hcx, the GPSMAP 60 CSx, and one of the new Colorado units. In the end, I selected the Vista because: I felt the Colorado was too new and I’d seen negative reviews (and it has features like 3D I didn’t think I’d need), and the Vista was proven, reliable, and less expensive than the 60 CSx. Also, it had all the features I wanted and was lighter and has longer advertised battery life than either of the other two units.
In a word, I consider this unit to be: exceptional. It meets or exceeds its advertised functionality and my expectations. Some specific items:
–Accuracy: I had read some reviews that complained about the accuracy of other similar units and I was worried. But I’ve found this unit to be very accurate, down to within a couple meters. And in my case it seems to make no difference whether the WAAS feature is enabled or disabled.
–Altitude accuracy: not quite as good as I’d like to see, but adequate. In a couple cases while hiking it has actually been off by as much as 1000 feet in altitude, but I attribute this to the vagaries of barometric altitude measurement, not to a defect in the unit itself. In cases where the altitude doesn’t seem so accurate, I find that the altitude relative to an entire track still reports where I’ve gone up and down hills, so I’m satisfied. Also, I have not yet tried manually setting the altitude or barometric pressure at the beginning of a trek, but I’d guess that would improve its overall performance.
–Battery Life: my first set of regular old AA Eveready Alkalines lasted slightly longer than 25 hours, the advertised life. I’d bet that I could stretch this to longer if I paid attention to turning off the backlight when I don’t really need it on.
–Size: I was surprised at how small the unit is. For some reason I had in my mind that all units around this size would be a bit bigger; it’s about the size of a deck of playing cards, but slightly thicker.
–Display Visibility: no problems at all here. I use the unit frequently in bright sunlight attached to my bike while wearing sunglasses and I can see the display fine from a few feet away.
–Map: the map that comes with the unit by default is entirely inadequate for anything but highway driving, but I knew this when I bought it, and had purchased Topo 2008 as well (which is very nice for both city and on-trail tracking). There are very few trails actually in the mapping software itself, but this isn’t the Vista’s deficiency itself.
–Sturdiness: biking can sometimes be a bit bumpy. Yay for solid state components; this GPS has worked fine over bumpy roads.
I’d highly recommend this unit to anyone looking for a handheld GPS, especially one to be used for walking, hiking, jogging, or bike riding. If you’re looking for something to give you directions while driving a car, this unit is not for you–stick to the Nuvi series.
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The 3D or “highway” view is worthless… no streets, roads, or trails even with maps loaded. I called Garmin about this. I called Garmin about transferring my unlock code from my retired etrex Legend to my new Vista. Sorry, but for another $99 they will sell me a new unlock code WITHOUT updated software. The free update is for only 1 unit even if you paid for several unlock codes.
If I had it to do over again I think I’d wait till the Magellan Triton comes out.
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